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	<title>Comments on: CiviCRM v Hosted CRMs: Why hosted CRMs are better suited for campaigns</title>
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		<title>By: e.politics: online advocacy tools &#38; tactics &#187; Quick Hits &#8212; July 29, 2010</title>
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		<dc:creator>e.politics: online advocacy tools &#38; tactics &#187; Quick Hits &#8212; July 29, 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jul 2010 17:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: henrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>henrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florian - Thanks for the comment.  If a campaign contacts to professionals that are going to install and configure CiviCRM, then it essentially becomes a hosted CRM. In which case, they have same benefits and downfalls of having a hosted CRM.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I mean by &quot;breaks&quot; is that often times users try t do what the software wasn&#039;t intended to do.  And sometimes hosting problem do occur.  Regardless, the campaign will need someone to fix these issues as soon as possible.  A developer community is not the best place for that to occur especially with a fundraising deadline looming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florian &#8211; Thanks for the comment.  If a campaign contacts to professionals that are going to install and configure CiviCRM, then it essentially becomes a hosted CRM. In which case, they have same benefits and downfalls of having a hosted CRM.   </p>
<p>What I mean by &#8220;breaks&#8221; is that often times users try t do what the software wasn&#39;t intended to do.  And sometimes hosting problem do occur.  Regardless, the campaign will need someone to fix these issues as soon as possible.  A developer community is not the best place for that to occur especially with a fundraising deadline looming</p>
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		<title>By: henrim</title>
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		<dc:creator>henrim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jul 2010 13:52:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Florian - Thanks for the comment.  If a campaign contacts to professionals that are going to install and configure CiviCRM, then it essentially becomes a hosted CRM. In which case, the same benefits and downfalls of having a hosted CRM.   &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;What I mean by &quot;breaks&quot; is that often times users try to what the software wasn&#039;t intended to do.  And sometimes hosting problem do occur.  Regardless, the campaign will need someone to fix these issues as soon as possible.  A developer community is not the best place for that to occur especially with a fundraising deadline looming</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Florian &#8211; Thanks for the comment.  If a campaign contacts to professionals that are going to install and configure CiviCRM, then it essentially becomes a hosted CRM. In which case, the same benefits and downfalls of having a hosted CRM.   </p>
<p>What I mean by &#8220;breaks&#8221; is that often times users try to what the software wasn&#39;t intended to do.  And sometimes hosting problem do occur.  Regardless, the campaign will need someone to fix these issues as soon as possible.  A developer community is not the best place for that to occur especially with a fundraising deadline looming</p>
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		<title>By: Florian Engel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Florian Engel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, but I disagree with quite a few points there.&lt;br&gt;Yes, the setup can take some time - but if you call professionals there can make it ready to go within 24 hours too. Customized feature may not have priority and can be developed later on.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regarding &quot;just in time patches&quot; I don&#039;t know what you&#039;re trying to say with &quot;it will break&quot; as civiCRM didn&#039;t do that at all. Actually never since I&#039;ve started using it (the only problems that came up where server sided troubles which are a matter of hosting)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If you consider these two proprietary software products as requirement than I agree. But not every campaign needs these - actually I haven&#039;t even heard of them before as haven&#039;t been involved with election campaigns...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Talking about customer service I enjoy bringing up my amazing experience with adobe creative suite software. They actually take more time answering the phone and debugging their stupid software (on my computer) that it&#039;s less hassle to accept and use as it is.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;But you do have a point that CiviCRM is not suited for people without knowledge of technology - but wordpress isn&#039;t either ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, but I disagree with quite a few points there.<br />Yes, the setup can take some time &#8211; but if you call professionals there can make it ready to go within 24 hours too. Customized feature may not have priority and can be developed later on.</p>
<p>Regarding &#8220;just in time patches&#8221; I don&#39;t know what you&#39;re trying to say with &#8220;it will break&#8221; as civiCRM didn&#39;t do that at all. Actually never since I&#39;ve started using it (the only problems that came up where server sided troubles which are a matter of hosting)</p>
<p>If you consider these two proprietary software products as requirement than I agree. But not every campaign needs these &#8211; actually I haven&#39;t even heard of them before as haven&#39;t been involved with election campaigns&#8230;</p>
<p>Talking about customer service I enjoy bringing up my amazing experience with adobe creative suite software. They actually take more time answering the phone and debugging their stupid software (on my computer) that it&#39;s less hassle to accept and use as it is.</p>
<p>But you do have a point that CiviCRM is not suited for people without knowledge of technology &#8211; but wordpress isn&#39;t either <img src='http://www.localpolitechs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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